Bitterness, resentment and anger are mainstays in divorce and custody cases, even in cases that don’t involve one or two narcissists, borderlines or psychopaths. When a personality disordered parent is involved, the damage to children and the targeted parent, or target of blame for the high-conflict, disordered parent, can be incalculable.
I’ve been operating Shrink4Men and working with clients embroiled in high-conflict divorce for almost a decade. During that time, I’ve noticed some things. There are uncannily similar patterns and markers among the men and women I’ve worked with in terms of their relationships with abusive partners and their break-ups and divorces.
You won’t find these phenomena in the DSM-V or most other clinical descriptions of narcissistic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder, paranoid personality disorder, dependent personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder (sociopaths and psychopaths). Nevertheless, when a client informs me that one or more of these phenomena are occurring, my inner Jeopardy contestant says, “Things a borderline or narcissist might do in a divorce for a thousand, Alex?”
That being said, let’s talk about poop.
Well, actually, wait a minute. Before we put our hip waders on, let’s address the basics. High-conflict is a sterile legalese term for personality disordered. Divorce and custody should be a straightforward matter, but there’s not as much money in that for attorneys and no narcissistic rage buzz/professional victim tour for the narcissist or borderline. In a just Family Court system, there should be default 50/50 shared parenting, spousal support that doesn’t exceed the length of the respective state or province’s unemployment benefits, zero gender bias, courts that uphold their own orders and financial penalties to attorneys who abuse the system for personal profit.
Unfortunately, this isn’t the current reality of Family Court. If it were, it would hopefully mitigate much of the high-conflict shenanigans of personality disordered litigants. Just like in your marriage, rational discourse and appealing to their nonexistent better natures is futile. The only thing that may work with narcissists, psychopaths and borderlines is meting out natural consequences for their bad behavior. The consequences are especially effective if related to one or more of their 5 common fears, which is detailed in Say Goodbye to Crazy:
- The fear of abandonment.
- The fear of loss of control.
- The fear of loss of resources (e.g., money, social status).
- The fear of appearing or feeling inferior or inadequate.
- The fear of public exposure.
Mind you, they don’t learn to be better people when they receive a consequence. They still feel entitled to lie, cheat and abuse, but if it means losing money or publicly exposing their true selves, the higher functioning ones may curb some of their worst tendencies as they seethe and gnash their fangs in frustration. It’s about avoiding unwanted consequences.
The most problematic features of narcissists, borderlines, histrionics and psychopaths are what drive high-conflict divorce and custody cases. These characteristics include:
- Emotional and psychological immaturity — it’s like arguing with a 5-year old or a 14-year old.
- Their stated issue is rarely the issue. Typically their personalities are the cause of most of their issues.
- Refusal to hold themselves accountable or be held accountable by others. It’s always someone else’s fault.
- Poor problem-solving and conflict resolution skills and an inability to compromise.
- Limited self-awareness.
- Frequently see themselves as the victim when they are, in fact, the aggressors (DARVO).
- A professional victim identity that’s fed by the adversarial nature of court allowing them to nurse their narcissistic injuries using the court as a proxy for their narcissistic rage. It’s a perfect storm.
Okay. Now let’s talk about poop.
Poop diaries. I’ve lost count of the number of parents I’ve worked with whose likely personality disordered exes were obsessed with their children’s bowel movements after divorce proceedings began. The consistency of the poop, the looseness, the firmness, the texture, the smell and color. Truly, their commitment to the descriptive documentation of poop is certifiable commendable. Several clients amassed three-ring binders full of poop related emails during the course of their divorces. Of course, the alleged flatulence, constipation or diarrhea typically only occurs immediately after the child returns from time with my clients. Meanwhile, the kids don’t have these issues during my clients’ time beyond the regular irregularities we all experience periodically.
Clients have been accused of not providing the kids enough water, too much fruit/too little fruit, etc. Or, the poop distress is due to the children’s “anxiety” at being separated from the parent with the poop obsession. Sometimes kids legitimately have these these issues and require dietary adjustments on the part of both parents. When it’s legit, the primary goal of both parents is to help the child, not weaponizing the kids’ poop in order to be awarded primary or sole custody. Smell the difference?
The borderline or narcissistic parent manufactures a health issue (that only she or he can observe) because they don’t want to share custody. They also want to hurt you. Narcissists, borderlines and psychopaths commonly believe children “belong” to them. Withholding the children from you and portraying you as a bad parent is also a great way to punish you regardless of who filed for divorce. This, in and of itself, is a form of child abuse. Dragging the children from one doctor to the next for unnecessary medical examinations is another.
Food sensitivities and other allergies. It never ceases to amaze me how many kids develop food allergies, food sensitivities, gluten intolerance, Celiac disease, Crohn’s disease, lactose intolerance and the like during custody cases. Naturally, only the borderline or narcissist observes these symptoms caused by you — the bad parent who should have no custody or very limited custody at the discretion of your ex.
Similar to the poop emails, demands for a precise accounting of every ounce of liquid and every morsel of food ingested by the kids abound. They insist on daily food logs — often without a directive from a pediatrician. You receive voluminous emails, texts and voicemails lambasting you for not allowing your ex to micromanage and control what goes on in your home during your custody time co-parenting.
Again, this is about manufacturing a case for primary or sole custody, not about doing what’s best for the kids. Let’s say your child actually does have a dietary issue. Okay, then you work with the pediatrician and nutritionist directly to make dietary adjustments, not your ex. You can do separate medical consultations just like you can do separate parent-teacher conferences. If your ex is trying to be the gatekeeper it’s about control of the child not care of the child.
Emotional and attention-deficit issues. Many children have a tough time coping with and adjusting to divorce. Good enough parents reassure the kids that everything will be okay and get them extra support if necessary. This one is tricky even for seasoned children’s therapists. When there’s a narcissistic or borderline parent attempting to alienate the child, emotional and behavioral issues can be erroneously attributed to the divorce when it’s actually due to the alienation campaign, parentification and other abuses by the personality disordered parent.
This is very difficult to untangle and why psychological evaluations for both parents can be incredibly helpful ***IF*** you can find an unbiased and competent evaluator and children’s therapist who is experienced with these kinds of cases. If you’re the one filing for divorce, be proactive. Do your due diligence and have experienced clinicians at the ready. Don’t go into court and request therapy for the kids because mom or dad is a narcissist or borderline. Request therapy to help your kids cope and adjust. Your ex won’t look very good to the court if she or he argues against that. When consulting with the therapist, again, dont throw psychological labels around. Instead, describe their behaviors and your observations about how it’s affecting the kids.
Switches pediatricians and children’s therapists frequently. The borderline, narcissist or psychopath parent is basically looking for an expert they can manipulate. Repeatedly changing doctors and counselors, or dragging the kids to emergency rooms and urgent care facilities when there’s a regular pediatrician who has a long-term knowledge of the child’s medical history should be immediately suspect to family court judges and custody evaluators. The NPD or BPD parent tries one and, if it doesn’t work, tries another and another until she or he finds a physician or therapist who will do their bidding in terms of custody recommendations.
Emergency restraining orders immediately preceding or following filing for divorce. Bogus domestic violence claims and restraining order abuse is so rampant even family law attorneys have acknowledged the problem. In my opinion, domestic violence complaints in which the accused has no previous history of violence, where there’s no physical injury and that coincide with divorce and custody proceedings should also be immediately suspect to judges and evaluators.
There’s a strong correlation between certain personality disorders (e.g., borderline, narcissistic, histrionic, paranoid, dependent and antisocial) and making false allegations of abuse. Ross and Blush (1987; 1990) have found certain patterns that characterize false allegation cases:
- The allegations start after separation and legal action commences.
- There’s a history of family dysfunction with high-conflict and other hidden underlying issues.
- Again, the female accuser is often a histrionic or borderline personality.
- The female accuser takes an angry, defensive and justifying stance.
- The accused male parent is generally nurturing, passive and lacks “macho” characteristics.
- In alleged sexual molestation cases, the child is typically a female under the age of 8.
- The allegations surface via the custodial parent who is typically the mother.
- The mother takes the child to an “expert” who corroborates the abuse and identifies the father as the culprit.
- The court reacts to the expert information by terminating or limiting visitation.
There are other markers, but in my experience these five tend to be the most common. These phenomena can occur separately, however, they often occur together or follow one another. If you’re in or about to enter into a divorce with a borderline, narcissist or psychopath, educating yourself about what you’re likely to face is every bit as important as documentation and employing the best practices of parallel parenting. And prepare yourself for poop emails.
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captaincrunchymunchy says
The children are not allowed to have close relationships with anyone except their mother. Close relationships that she is not a part of only cause jealously and hate.
It’s the same as a child who has a piece of food that needs to be shared. Instead of giving a piece to someone they lick it all over (alienation).
There is no winning.
Ever.
RT2twins says
Wowwww, I would hate for that to be true…..I am now licking wounds still….I left the house about 1 year ago and have 2 boy twins, now 10 years of age.
I don’t even know where to start the story.
I came upon this insightful website years back and felt like a brick or cement bag was lifted from my shoulders as I read written experiences other men had told . I was confused, strong, and didn’t want to share with anyone because I was a man.
She made most of the money, worked hard as I did, but nothing was good enough, respected, or as I learned later true.
I was told we lost everything, there was no way I could pay for that $50,000.00 ring she expected.
Later we had twins. I wanted to get married, she said “I think about it,” huhh that never happened.
It was crazy, she would buy all these things for me, but I was just a puppet in the game, yes “I said game”!
I am throwing tid-bits in the story, but haven’t told everything, which is frigging crazy.
I did have an affair after sleeping on the couch for 5 years..She used to say “I will destroy you if you (me) if yor ever cheat on me”..
Mind you all, sleeping on the couch, with no touch. ….”If you make more money, I will sleep with you”…etc….I would get mad, but never
call her a bad name, or personally insult her, …if we had an arguement, she would blow….she was always right, never wrong,…I was called crazy…etc, and etc.
I love my boys…but after the affair, all these lies were told about me…crazy lies….that is another chapter, along with most everything written here.
She says if I go to court, I will never see my kids again….she has so minipulated my boys about me as a person, it just hurts….i.e lies.
Anyway, I am going to fight one day…
Yes I hurt, wish I could blow, put a fist thru a wall, scream from the depth of my soul, but no…I have to be wise, hold everything in and survive
just to say hi and give my boys a hug….
I went out of State to buy houses in the foreclosed market….i.e. “You are doing this for our boys”…we bought land in another country….I worked there for months at a time…”You are doing this for your boys”…3 months pass..on the phone I say “I miss the/my boys”…she says…”You are to sensitive”…etc., and etc, …and yes I have heard rumors that she has been seeing other men……I can’t prove anything because everything has been
planned and calculated….
So no….I won’t give up, and will fight later….in response to there is no winning….It’s not about winning, it is about my two young boys who are going to be men one day…..I will fight for the health of their being and soul, and believe me, I hit rock bottom financially, confidently and etc….
It is the spirit of truth that keeps me semi strong, though I feel weak….!!!
Best to all the Men that are healing wounds from vindictive assauts of unhealthy woman,…
and best to all the Woman that can encourage, stregthen, and have compassion and show a true feminine nature, because that is true strength…
Rich
StepMum says
My husband and I had a good laugh about the “poop diaries” section of this post. We have many many emails from his undiagnosed BPD ex about constipation and poop. Fascinating how that is a common issue. In our case, all the emails helped in a recent court case.
depthtested says
I was never married to my son’s borderline mother. In fact, I moved to another state before I knew he was mine. (He was most likely an entrapment pregnancy to keep me from leaving.) However, I was in his life and I’ve experienced many of the things you listed.
In the beginning she’d say he had croup. She’d wait until the night before I was to travel to get him—already took the day off work, already had an airline ticket—then she’d call and say he was too sick to travel. She’d then suggest that instead of driving with him to see my family, I spend the day with her and him. (She knew that spending time with her was out of the question otherwise.) I put a stop to that tactic very quickly. I simply said that I’d visit my family without him. It was amazing how quickly he’d get better. She tried this one several times before she figured out it didn’t work.
Then he was lactose intolerant. I had to get him soy milk. One time, he asked me why he had to drink special milk, he didn’t drink it at home. That was the ned of soy milk.
Eventually, he was diagnosed with ADHD. I never saw any signs of it. Nonetheless, she got him diagnosed, put into therapy, and onto meds. If he wasn’t anxious and jumpy before, he was now. (In recent years, I’ve worked with a psychologist who specializes in working with the victims of borderlines. He feels pretty confident that my son doesn’t have ADHD, but rather, the effects of being raised by a borderline. He also suggested I share my concerns about the mother with my son’s shrink, which I did.)
And of course, I’d frequently get the “What did you feed him? He’s throwing up and has diarrhea” email after visits to my home. I’d also get the “He’s having trouble in school”, “He’s misbehaving at home”, or the “He’s being tormented over the clothes you bought him” emails. My wife and I would place small bets about how long it would take before we received “there’s a problem” email after each visit. I ended these by asking borderline mommy if perhaps there was something happening in her home. After all, these things never happened at our home. She stopped for awhile…that is, until she found another annoying tactic.
The sad part is, my son has lived his entire life thinking there’s something wrong with him. ADHD is part of his identity. As is, being the unloved (by his father) child. Outside of his mother’s emotional problems, he has little identity of his own. These things would be funny if they weren’t so detrimental to him and me.
rustbelt says
Poop was a major topic in my divorce trial. She claimed to have crippling diarrhea that prevented her from working, even though she was working full time when I filed for divorce. I testified that I never witnessed this problem. Notably, during hours and hours of testimony and hearing over two years, she never once had to excuse herself to use the bathroom. She was terrible at faking illness, but the judge ruled her to be disabled anyway and 6 years later I am still paying all her living expenses as lifelong alimony.